Greenwald, Snowden Joint Address on Surveillance & Erosion of Rights

NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and journalist Glenn Greenwald made a joint appearance on Saturday in which they discussed how the “products of surveillance” include accumulation of metadata as well as drone strikes.

The two were speaking via separate video streams at a session of Amnesty International USA’s annual human rights conference taking place at a hotel in downtown Chicago.

According to Reuters‘ reporting on the event, Snowden and Greenwald

YouTube user Dori Kenyon captured some of the event, which can be seen below. In the video, the Intercept journalist describes his response to a supporter who wanted him to move away from covering NSA stories and get back to issues like drones, Guantanamo and indefinite detention. Greenwald explains how they are not separate issues, but inextricably linked.

“The premise that underlies the system of mass surveillance,” Greenwald said, “is really the same principle and part of the same system — the idea that the government can do whatever it wants without even notifying its own citizens in any meaningful way that it’s doing it, and can completely disregard the rights of its own citizens but even more so the rights of anybody who’s not a citizen in order to exert dominion and control.”

“One way it does that is through invasions. Another way is through torture. Another way is indefinite detention or drones. Another way is through mass surveillance,” Greenwald said.

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